I want to experience the struggle of becoming a baroness in 13 minutes without any items. Teach me. Demon pleaseeeeeee hahahahahahahahahha
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Please teach me demon senseiiii please teach meeeee senseiiiii i need very secret infoooooo
nub
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I was clearly doing a mistake, it's actually doable with less wind res, I fixed my mistake, tried it again, and things went well
Vanity
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Is this the AI-induced cognitive decline they've been talking about?
Or you really don't see any issues that a mediocre character, a ninja with lv. 1 armor and horse, a decent character like the warrior I sent in a pic (still horse, but better gear, skills, etc.) and characters fully built for Baroness can finish the run in whatever minutes, but the overall CD is still the same?
I'm seeing a lot of yapping in this thread, good exercise for your critical thinking, but so little analytical thinking it hurts.
This is why we have players playing here for 2-3 years or since server start that want to stay at mid-level. This is why we have people who have progressed to beta and respective runs and still have returned to run Baroness (not other mid-game content, Baroness specifically), and some of them are in this thread, giving -1s.
I want Baroness to continue being a solid source of income for any player that actually needs it. What I don't want, now that I have a couple of beta characters ready for action, is to realize that my investment in progression is a lie and that it would be profitable to literally build from scratch another pair of Baroness characters.
And why? Because Azrael is a "craft run". If players consider that a somewhat high-level run, done in at best 20 minutes, requiring pretty significant preparation, should be less profitable than Baroness (which you can do with lv. 1 horse, on foot, no skills, doesn't matter the minutes) just because it's a "craft run", then we all should really reconsider what server we're playing on.
A server where end-game balancing is made around a couple tens of people that are sick of playing versus each other all day, so the pot spills back onto the mid-levels.
Employ your analytical thinking, go over this thread a couple of times, realize that we've been pointing out the issues and some suggestions, not demanding a fix or a nerf, just a solution to the fact that you have people running Nemere, Azrael, and beta bosses that have or are preparing Baroness accounts. Much beginner love. Don't even get us started on 105 accounts camping Monkey Fangs or Vizto/Kenki.
And anyone who wants to learn more about doing Baroness efficiently (yes even with 13% wind res and 9k HP as I had on my healer) can PM me and I will gladly share.
And can we stop it with creating new accounts just to yap around? We've had 3-4 people, whoever they are, making new Forum accounts just because their arguments were **** enough they considered needing reinforcement.
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All joking aside, you're still saying you'll give tactics via private message. You're joking. If you want to be helpful, you need to share this openly with everyone. How logical is it for a nerf or buff to come for your benefit when you're selling the materials you've stored in your warehouses cheaply?
I see a few groups of people who think they are smart and savvy for their own interests and gain. These tricks don't work on experienced people. I feel sorry for you. I hope you find the right path, smart and savvy kids hahahahahhaha
Vanity
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When we discovered Baroness, we asked and found out - the play, the tactics, the farm. We weren't given things on a silver platter to profit from.
Players that want to learn how to play the game should also ask if they're interested - no?
And again, please work on your analytical thinking. You're asking for the logic behind a buff or a nerf - I didn't ask for either, just for the realization that Baroness is too overpowered for its level range.
I will gladly stream the warehouses of all the saved accounts in my client to whoever doesn't come yapping and being in a counter-argument with us just for the sake of it. Our Baroness stock is gone - it took us several months actually to sell everything from those 1k runs. As I said in the start, the investment for Baroness is there, it's just not what most people expect it to be.
Last but not least, if I was from one of the big guilds around here and would bring my hunks to support this thread with random ass +1 comments, I would completely understand you. We're not even a group of people, we're 2 people, talking for myself and partner here, feeling cheated in regards to the fake sense of progression on the server.
You are two very smart and alert friends, I admire you kidskids hahahhaha good luck smart kids
)) Send me secret info smart kids send meeeeeeeee
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Baroness can make 500-600kk per hour? If so im dropping end game and doing baroness only
Hahahahahahha hahahahahahha +999999
TurkErkegi
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They’re not only spamming Baroness with multiple accounts, they’re also flooding forum threads with freshly created ones. It must be a force of habit by now.
nub
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Hey there, I've done quite a few runs today, in the following image I opened 4 chests, every run was done in 7-10 minutes, I'm new to this run, I still have to figure out more things about the run, and how to complete it faster.
Letting this aside, I think that the run is pretty broken, you're getting Passage Tickets from the eggs of the baroness, on average I get 2-3, I wasn't expecting the drops from the chests to be this good, what's weird is that they can be even better.
While this might be helpful for the new players, some players turned this dungeon into an abusive yang factory, my suggestion would be lowering the chance of getting pearls from the chests, or doing something about the cooldown, increasing the cooldown by 10-15 minutes after completion at worst, or as Vanity stated upper, applying the cd effect after u finish the dungeon, not when you're actually entering the dungeon.
Letting this aside, I think that the run is pretty broken, you're getting Passage Tickets from the eggs of the baroness, on average I get 2-3, I wasn't expecting the drops from the chests to be this good, what's weird is that they can be even better.
While this might be helpful for the new players, some players turned this dungeon into an abusive yang factory, my suggestion would be lowering the chance of getting pearls from the chests, or doing something about the cooldown, increasing the cooldown by 10-15 minutes after completion at worst, or as Vanity stated upper, applying the cd effect after u finish the dungeon, not when you're actually entering the dungeon.
Hi,
Thank you all for the engaging discussion on this topic. I truly appreciate the time and perspectives everyone has contributed. However, it seems that the conversation has begun to move in a direction that is no longer constructive. Given the recent buff to the Azrael Chest and the current tone of the discussion, I believe it is best to close this thread at this point. In the meantime, we will continue to monitor how both dungeons perform and make adjustments if necessary.
Thank you again for your input and understanding.
Warm wishes,
Essence.
Thank you all for the engaging discussion on this topic. I truly appreciate the time and perspectives everyone has contributed. However, it seems that the conversation has begun to move in a direction that is no longer constructive. Given the recent buff to the Azrael Chest and the current tone of the discussion, I believe it is best to close this thread at this point. In the meantime, we will continue to monitor how both dungeons perform and make adjustments if necessary.
Thank you again for your input and understanding.
Warm wishes,
Essence.
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