Closed Everything (that) is broken about Spider Baroness

[Halferny]

Your issue is me, actually, and my statements. Not the actual issue. You feel like it's personal, when if it was, i'd begin by asking why you care so much about baroness with a full 105 account, but i dont.

I'm a streamer, and I direct many new and intermediate players to the Baroness and Naaga dungeons. For me, selfishness is a bad thing. I'm farming metinstone in the beta. The Baroness herself is of no importance to me, but there's a trick you're pulling here. I think I can defend the rights of new players.

 

[Sese89]

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You can pretty much build 2 characters with a half-decent gear/setup and, while the run is longer than the average, you can pretty much still semi-afk it once every 30 minutes (due to CD starting when you enter the dungeon, not finish it) - so you can profit from Baroness while doing whatever with your main, because you definitely don't need a main to finish this run.

Yes, you need items, but you can skip buff skills, alchemy, leadership, and most important of it all - an evolved pet.
The immediate solution would be to make the CD start when you finish (exit) the dungeon - right now, there is no penalty for lack of efficiency.

Stop post Pictures! i know you and partener make alot baroness,have full stock and now try nerf! this drop baroness have more then 2 years! is not ok nerf now!

 

[IDemonI]

Ok so over the course of a few days i turned into a trickster and the baroness turned from a hard dungeon that requires good gear and lots of investment into a new player dungeon. Your new player dungeon has 400% profit rate as shown above.

Oh you might see some personal interests in the comment above.

 

[Halferny]

Ok so over the course of a few days i turned into a trickster and the baroness turned from a hard dungeon that requires good gear and lots of investment into a new player dungeon. Your new player dungeon has 400% profit rate as shown above

My friend, I suggest you think logically. Right now, in beta, how much are we earning per hour? On average, 250-350kk.
How much does someone who is new to valley farming earn? 40-60kk
How much does a mid-level player who farms for satisfaction earn? 50-80kk
Now you think it's wrong for these players to earn 25kk per dungeon every 5 minutes. (25-30min cd)
You're right, if the server is 3-4 months old, it might be possible if precautions were taken beforehand and it was replaced.
However, right now we need to hold the hands of our new and intermediate players who are stuck at that level. The more players we have on the server, the better it is for us.
My final comment on this matter is that I wish you good games and good lives.

 

[IDemonI]

My friend, I suggest you think logically. Right now, in beta, how much are we earning per hour? On average, 250-350kk.
How much does someone who is new to valley farming earn? 40-60kk
How much does a mid-level player who farms for satisfaction earn? 50-80kk
Now you think it's wrong for these players to earn 25kk per dungeon every 5 minutes. (25-30min cd)
You're right, if the server is 3-4 months old, it might be possible if precautions were taken beforehand and it was replaced.
However, right now we need to hold the hands of our new and intermediate players who are stuck at that level. The more players we have on the server, the better it is for us.
My final comment on this matter is that I wish you good games and good lives.

Read before commenting, leave the thinking to me. This is.. i think the 4th time i'm saying the problem is not your average joe doing a run once in a while. It's the spammers that bother me

 

[Sese89]

My friend, I suggest you think logically. Right now, in beta, how much are we earning per hour? On average, 250-350kk.
How much does someone who is new to valley farming earn? 40-60kk
How much does a mid-level player who farms for satisfaction earn? 50-80kk
Now you think it's wrong for these players to earn 25kk per dungeon every 5 minutes. (25-30min cd)
You're right, if the server is 3-4 months old, it might be possible if precautions were taken beforehand and it was replaced.
However, right now we need to hold the hands of our new and intermediate players who are stuck at that level. The more players we have on the server, the better it is for us.
My final comment on this matter is that I wish you good games and good lives.

Good point GG

 

[Sese89]

Read before commenting, leave the thinking to me. This is.. i think the 4th time i'm saying the problem is not your average joe doing a run once in a while. It's the spammers that bother me

If spammers bother you...How about we all do it Tiket That bothers us whu make Nemere,Nagga ,etc .
Nemere no cd so whu make acc for neme thik if they put now limit?
Is same like barones!
Players will get frustrated if Nerf Baroness or another Dungeon.Is to late now to nerf.Players invest time and yang in items etc.
Can you also make 2 acc and spam Dungeon.GL

 

[IDemonI]

If spammers bother you...How about we all do it Tiket That bothers us whu make Nemere,Nagga ,etc .
Nemere no cd so whu make acc for neme thik if they put now limit?

I would complain about nemere spammers too, if nemere was actually useful and more than 10 players were looking for nemere upgrades, as corvvo mentioned earlier.
I have complained about naaga too, when i started playing, becouse kenki and vizito were being camped, and no one else could do it besides the people camping it. But unlike the baroness, the drop is balanced, it takes a little longer, and the cooldown mechanic isn't the same.

 

[Tweh]

First of all, the idea makes sense, but why it's being considered after so long raises questions about the logic of divesting existing key stocks or increasing profits after sufficient returns have been achieved. -1

 

[Legion]

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You can pretty much build 2 characters with a half-decent gear/setup and, while the run is longer than the average, you can pretty much still semi-afk it once every 30 minutes (due to CD starting when you enter the dungeon, not finish it) - so you can profit from Baroness while doing whatever with your main, because you definitely don't need a main to finish this run.

Yes, you need items, but you can skip buff skills, alchemy, leadership, and most important of it all - an evolved pet.
The immediate solution would be to make the CD start when you finish (exit) the dungeon - right now, there is no penalty for lack of efficiency.

I really want to see a run under 10 minutes with that equipment you’re showing. It seems like the pearl market has been dropping prices, and now they’re trying to raise them because of the excess stock

 

[xNike]

Stop post Pictures!

please excuse my friend for proving how wrong you are about the difficulty of this dungeon, it wont happen again, but it doesnt make you any smarter

Stop post Pictures! i know you and partener make alot baroness,have full stock and now try nerf! this drop baroness have more then 2 years! is not ok nerf now!

It seems like the pearl market has been dropping prices, and now they’re trying to raise them because of the excess stock

unlike the majority of the server, both of us have principles. we own absolutley nothing we dropped from those 1k runs, ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING ANYMORE, those runs were about 7-8 months ago if i recall corectly, and we have sold everything way before leveling to 105 96 etc etc, so know your facts before commenting on us but we might come back so hold on tight.

clowns aside wanna see something really cool?

a run under 10 minutes

sorry bro, i tryied... only had 1 key left somewhere deep in the inventory of a long forgotten lv 60 ninja i used to have before it got obliterated #justiceforninja

so here is me getting 12 minutes on a ninja
with level 1 horse
level 1 armor +0
and a few liquids + level 6 vita stone


https://streamable.com/jjueof 😘

 

[IDemonI]

I'm a streamer, and I

think I can defend the rights of new players.

For me, selfishness is a bad thing.

 

[nub]

Hey there, I'm back after trying baroness myself with a lv 60 acc that I have, and I can say the following, the dungeon is rewarding indeed, but it isn't as easy as some people made it look, they were clearly lying, or hiding some details, I have a lv 60 character, with cl1-cl2 alchemy, 55 wind res, max arachnids, and still get one shot by the baroness when she's at the 20-50% phase, I'm not saying this as if my character is perfect, but some guys said u need 12% wind res, which looks like a joke, also, my character has nearly 18k hp, so it cannot be that I'm low on hp or something


I know, I am missing some wind resistance, but I am there to clarify a few things, I used dragon bracelet on the war, and harmony bracelet on the mage too, I am missing 15% wind res on the bracelet, and about alchemy, I do have cl1 alchemy, which is nowhere near what some people have said about not having alchemy, also doing the run with nearly 0 wind res, again, I'm not there to actually brag about how difficult this run is, but to clarify some things, which some people on this post have been clearly lying about.


Conclussion:
My character still needs some work indeed. but I find it funny that some people have to lie about this, I got a 18k skill from the baroness, with all that resistance, harmony brace and dragon brace.

With this said, I'll come back when I'll have a better bracelet, cus that's where I'm missing wind res% from
EDIT: I actually have an evolved pet, which gives me the following stats:

 

[IDemonI]

Brother you don't need wind... As i said in the first post, the only thing that is nerfing this dungeon is player's lack of knowledge about it

 

[Pory]

The person who brought up this topic or their friends think they can be clever because they have a lot of barones material at their disposal hahahahahahahahaha
thank you nub for info @nub
This topic also gets a big -1

 

[Pory]

Brother you don't need wind... As i said in the first post, the only thing that is nerfing this dungeon is player's lack of knowledge about it

Yes, you don't need wind. You can finish it in 13 minutes by enduring the pain of dismounting and remounting the horse for 13 minutes. I think about how I dismounted and attacked and fled continuously for 13 long minutes. It's a very hopeless case, hahahahahahhaa.

 

[IDemonI]

I honestly don't have anymore words besides should learn how to do the run. Other than that, from now on it's the staff decision

 

[Pory]

I honestly don't have anymore words besides should learn how to do the run. Other than that, from now on it's the staff decision

Please teach me how to kill a baroness by dismounting and remounting in 13 minutes, pleaseeeee, I want to experience this torment, I want to kill it in 13 minutes. Pleaseeeee demonnnn pleaseeee hahahahahhahahahaa

 

[IDemonI]

Please teach me how to kill a baroness by dismounting and remounting in 13 minutes, pleaseeeee, I want to experience this torment, I want to kill it in 13 minutes. Pleaseeeee demonnnn pleaseeee hahahahahhahahahaa

Are you that crap that you want to kill the baroness with a level 1 horse?

 

[nub]

Brother you don't need wind... As i said in the first post, the only thing that is nerfing this dungeon is player's lack of knowledge about it

I dunno, I just stated what happened while I was doing it, the more eggs u destroy the more damage u get from the baroness, I'm only destroying 3 eggs, I might be doing a mistake, prolly u have to destroy more than this, my damage is enough to get to kill her, but her damage is abnormal with that amount of eggs destroyed.
PS: I'm new to this run, haven't tried this run ever before, so I dunno, I might be making a mistake