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Farenzo

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Every time i played on servers i never had a problem with big guilds having a certain advantage and i don t see anything abnormal in that. After the update with chapter 4 i was finally satisfied that at last i could have access to rune+ for my items and they were no longer exclusive to the guilds that killed before (i guess still Hated), then those from this guild asked for a change because there was no more pvp on the server (part of it is true). i have no problem with this guild, it s normal to want everything just for yourself, so the change was made almost instantly (a bit suspicious considering how slow things usually move on the forum from what i see) and now they are the only ones who benefit from the drop at world bosses and pvp still doesn t exist, or if it can be called pvp when they kill some pvm characters in 2-3 skills while they try to do their dmg for chests. The staff simply took a benefit away from everyone else and didn t even give it to the Hated guild because they already had that benefit anyway.

Problem:

-to make meley you need magma residue which can only be obtained from red dragon (meaning you have to buy from those in Hated because only they have the shops), or from razador where there is also the problem with the entry if you don t have the time needed to buy the 24h key

-to try to craft a reinforced stone you need rune+ which you also buy from them, or the unplayable option called Blue Death...

the pvp changes at world bosses were made to encourage pvp but right now pvp there is almost non existent and favors a single guild. The pvp they talk about may only be between themselves the way things are.

i m not the kind of person who complains and who wants advantages when i know i don t deserve them, i have no problem that as a relatively new player compared to them i have to farm triple for the same thing, i could farm blue death all day hoping to get "rune+" but the run requires a bigger investment than the profit, there are 2 topics about this run one of which is 2 months old, simply absolutely no one does this run because it s not worth it.

Solutions:

-change something in the way world bosses are farmed to allow other players to get at least a minimum of chests, meaning if a player comes solo he can do the minimum dmg, the top will still be taken by the strong guilds anyway so the advantage remains to the older ones with strong characters

-modify blue death so that at least you don t end up with a loss at the end of the run
 

DeCiMaToR

Active member
-change something in the way world bosses are farmed to allow other players to get at least a minimum of chests, meaning if a player comes solo he can do the minimum dmg, the top will still be taken by the strong guilds anyway so the advantage remains to the older ones with strong characters
Big +1 to this, I also find it fair that if Hated is there uncontested that they deserve the Top10, I have 0 issues with this, but it is really frustrating when it is gatekept so hard that you can't even do minimum damage.

Also, about magma residue, there should be another source, which should be Razador in my opinion. It was suggested before already to increase magma residue drop from him, for example to 50% instead of 10% or how much it is right now, because right now even when you do 10 runs with 1 key, you might only get 0 or 1 magma residue, anything above is rare. So, if you don't do such crazy amounts per day, you most likely even have to buy more magma residues to craft razador keys, which should not be the case imo.
 

AcabWom2

Member
Big +1 to this, I also find it fair that if Hated is there uncontested that they deserve the Top10, I have 0 issues with this, but it is really frustrating when it is gatekept so hard that you can't even do minimum damage.

Also, about magma residue, there should be another source, which should be Razador in my opinion. It was suggested before already to increase magma residue drop from him, for example to 50% instead of 10% or how much it is right now, because right now even when you do 10 runs with 1 key, you might only get 0 or 1 magma residue, anything above is rare. So, if you don't do such crazy amounts per day, you most likely even have to buy more magma residues to craft razador keys, which should not be the case imo.
Hello again u complaining ..how about when you done wubba as solo player for couple months and after you have towsends or changers and upps?even if u gift everything to DonPablo you still done it solo😄🥹was ok wasn’t it?you complain hated don’t let you do min damage ofc you need to fight for it and get it ,it’s easy to do min damage I can do with 105 mage crap account so stop crying and try more hard 😁
 

DeCiMaToR

Active member
Hello again u complaining ..how about when you done wubba as solo player for couple months and after you have towsends or changers and upps?even if u gift everything to DonPablo you still done it solo😄🥹was ok wasn’t it?you complain hated don’t let you do min damage ofc you need to fight for it and get it ,it’s easy to do min damage I can do with 105 mage crap account so stop crying and try more hard 😁
At this point I'm just wondering who hurt you if you rant about something that happened 1.5 years ago, under every second post that I write🤡
But yes, was okay back then, thanks for asking! I'm just addressing the current issue, not something that happened 1.5 years ago.

Anyway, Hated downvoting this post is so typical, they lose nothing from this proposed change but still cry about it, it's insane.
 

AcabWom2

Member
At this point I'm just wondering who hurt you if you rant about something that happened 1.5 years ago, under every second post that I write🤡
But yes, was okay back then, thanks for asking! I'm just addressing the current issue, not something that happened 1.5 years ago.

Anyway, Hated downvoting this post is so typical, they lose nothing from this proposed change but still cry about it, it's insane.
Cry?the one that cry and ask mercy in dm for do min damage is you bro
 

Farenzo

New member
You need a to make a Thread like: Make Blue-Death easyier to get rune+ all other make no sense
The problem that started the change was that pvp would have disappeared from the server, but in the current situation where you don t let anyone do their dmg by killing pvm characters, where is the charm of pvp here?
Through this, only those from hated have access to chests or other players are forced to buy chests from them in order to hope for a rune, making them even stronger, so who exactly do you want to fight if you become stronger day by day while other players don t really have alternatives? Won t pvp disappear from the server anyway like this? It seems it was not about pvp, but that you wanted the world bosses just for yourselves. Someone from hated said in another topic that he doesn t even care about the chests and comes to world bosses for pvp, but it looks like the situation is the opposite.

i don t want the others to receive an advantage, but i also don t think it s fair that you are the only ones advantaged. And i say once again, i don t think the problem necessarily comes from your guild although i think you are aware that soon you won t have anyone left to fight, i don t see how it could affect you if a player outside your guild does his dmg.
The problem is that the staff made a change that affects all players except for one guild.
 

sirzento

Member
From an outsider perspective who never done this raid, the problem seems to be that you can't do minimum damage that is needed to qualifie for a drop because one guild dominates on the pvp aspect of the raid.

One could think that the obvious sultion would be to remove the minimum damage requirement but that would introduce the problem again where you could just go in with as many accounts as possible for maximum profit since there is no minimum damage anymore. So this is no solution.

But what if a system would get added where you would become invulnerable to pvp damage after you died X times and your KD drops below X? (You obviously won't do any pvp damage after that eighter)
If you don't want to do pvp and use your pvm gear, you obviously won't be much of a challenge to kill in pvp and killing such foe wouldn't be much in the sense of pvp without any challenge. Then after dieing a bunch of times without killing anyone because your gear isn't strong enough or you use pvm gear, after reaching a score (for example) 0 pvp kills and 10 deaths, you would get invulnerable to pvp damage and you get your chance to to minimum damage.
But if you got decent gear and actually killing someone sometimes, you won't receive this invulnerable if your score would be 5 kills and 8 deaths because it seems like you actually having fun in pvp.
The top pvp guild could still farm kills from people that are no challenge at all but they don't have the possibility to just perma kill them so they get no loot. People who actually want to do pvp could still challenge the guild if they got the gear and skills for it. If this isn't already a thing, add a second loot pool to the top pvp players to encourage people to actually do pvp for the chance to get extra loot.

If you think people will abuse this and only going in with pvm gear to get the invulnerable to pvp damage, then there seems to be a bigger issue that adding pvp to this raid might not be the best idea if people don't enjoy it.
 

Azarthal

Member
Hello again u complaining ..how about when you done wubba as solo player for couple months and after you have towsends or changers and upps?even if u gift everything to DonPablo you still done it solo😄🥹was ok wasn’t it?you complain hated don’t let you do min damage ofc you need to fight for it and get it ,it’s easy to do min damage I can do with 105 mage crap account so stop crying and try more hard 😁
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xShadow

Member
+1

As I've addressed this issue in the past I will say it again here, add pvm mode were u simply dont get into top10, whoever wants to fight hated for the top10 reward will go pvp mode.
 
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DeCiMaToR

Active member
Cry?the one that cry and ask mercy in dm for do min damage is you bro
If you want to call that "cry" that's alright, I was just asking since there was nobody there and I didn't want to contest for a Top10 spot, just wanted to do minimum damage. My bad for thinking Hated members could be reasoned with.
Anyway, at least I don't have to bring up things from 1.5 years ago on a completely unrelated topic. :)
 

Cluss

Active member
Red guild is stronger in pvp pvm, we just dont play 24h
Put world boss once per day and we will have totally diferenet situation
Hahah what and what, come on you guys never want to fight on weekends, when everyone has time and almost all of us are there waiting for a big fight.
You guys choose a random day in the week to gather all people you have even if they dont even have any pvp. 😀
 

Kasuiton

Active member
for me personally, participating in world boss 7-11 spawns per day x20min minimum is an insult to intelligence, we know who is better and who plays 24h. world boss should be 1 a day, better rewards and the end of the story, which probably wouldn't suit you.
 

Cluss

Active member
I have barely time, only on weekends so idk what you talking about wouldn't suit me, im not the one farming the whole night
 

Tasky

Well-known member
Hahah what and what, come on you guys never want to fight on weekends, when everyone has time and almost all of us are there waiting for a big fight.
You guys choose a random day in the week to gather all people you have even if they dont even have any pvp. 😀
Dare I suggest there are better things to do ... in the weekend? 😂
Find God buddy 😂
 

Tasky

Well-known member
like you would care or know what time or day it is xD nolifer
Dont get angry, I would not want to hear any bad news about your health buddy. I only suggested you a healthy option to spend your weekend 😂 😂
 
Hahah what and what, come on you guys never want to fight on weekends, when everyone has time and almost all of us are there waiting for a big fight.
You guys choose a random day in the week to gather all people you have even if they dont even have any pvp. 😀
Drinking the Kool-Aid since time immemorial.
 
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