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Wom2- is this project really having future?

BoomBerciK

New member
Hi, i've decided to create a topic about our feature, our server feautre.
Beginning with a word of introduction, im not gonna again blame any of tester's which are really looking like they arent existing.
There's a lot of things which should be repaired long time ago,
since now still not even contested.
Let me throw some issues:

Pvp desync which is incredible, reported probably after 1st pvp's on server, seems like we doesnt care
How we should deal with problem like this?

YES

Lets say we gonna fix,
after 1 year everyone get used to playing with this crap desync so
we can say
we cannot
really change it now because the whole dynamic of pvp will change and people might not like it.



Bugged cerberus
First problem about cerberus is that is even existing on our server,
our testers ofc didnt catch the bug with cerberus pushing the handbrake everytime someone ranged hits him.
How we should deal with problem like this?

If its not fixable, delete cerberus and swap with similiar parameters one.
Lets tell people that we gonna fix it, after 1 month of people crying lets say we cannot.


Useless pvp event like dojang with elo/ prizes are joke
Its all about the competitions across whole game pvp or pve as we all know people which are playing metin mostly there are focused too much on pve aspect.
Most of people didnt even use a agressive skills in this game,
how to convince people to play some pvp?

Make the area like we have, as we all know the barrer to stepin to the pvp world on end game is very high,
convince people to think about pvp from beggining not from end game,
give them nice prizes for winning the tournament,
it will not unbalance the economy because event is once in 2 weeks.


Starting prize for winner of dojang is 10dc, REALLY?
Useless pvp event like nation war with handicap
Dojang is dead so the nation war cannot be alive because its kinda depending, more people at dojang= more at nation war. Here the prizes are in my opinion okay,not too big, not too small.
But we can have a fuckup right there also,
right?

Lets make people feel the emotions that they are fighitng for the whole kingdom prize,
ofc there has to be winner,
ofc jinno have most people on EVERY server so mostly they will have biggest chances to succed but let it be like this, why not?
If jinno is overcrowded u shouldnt feel really comfortable if any1 will ks u,
u cant do a **** because the rank is expensive so u have to live with that.
If u are from different kingdom u are always able to fight with them for "free".

Sure, lets do handicap, if u are too strong we will debuff u so u cant really win next battle, but come please show us how much we fcked ur damage up, ur ego doesnt exist so i can really feel that jinno pvp beasts are joining the nation war to get fcked because server really wants them to lose. Ah no, wait, they will not come, ****.



2 different patches, 2 different way of decision making. Lets compare changes with aqua drake and adding costumes with bonuses.
Aqua dragon:

dont really remember the changes but they werent a gamebreakers,
there was a strawpoll to let people decide if they want to change or not.
At the moment when the strawpoll begins there was 5% of server doing the aqua dragon
( able to vote was everyone also people which didnt join the dungeon since now)


Adding bonus adders and changers to costumes 30 days, what does it made?

✅-Burned out from server some yangs, which is always good when the server is hitting more and more months alive.
✅-Finally costumes 30d are worth anything.
✅-BP is more valuable to do.


❌- Mostly killed the resistance 90 level shields.

❌- Another buff to warrior which is right now overpowered.
❌- Server is way easier.
❌- We arent able to use costumes we like, we are forced to use costumes that server gives ( right now we are in Turkey, everyone wearing fake Calvin Klein).
❌- Killed prices for any permanent costumes which are kinda useless right now.

How it should be made?

- Delete completly 30d costumes or let them be dead like they are now. Put bonus adder which will add instantly 4 bonuses to ur perma costume which will stay for 30 days, working the same way as 30d costumes.
Like this we arent forcing anybody to wear costume he doesnt like,
u have added also a function that u can hide the costume u are wearing,
YES XDDDDDDDDD
but u are able to hide it only for u.
Rest of people see the costume u are using.

Ending sentence
If u are making a changes on aqua drake which will make affect on 5% of server population u are able to ask.
Then when u are implementing the changes which will affect on whole server u doesnt care about people opinion,
just let it be like u invent.
Unfortunently people invested a lot in 1st days after the update to get best bonuses and u nerfed them after 3 days.
DISSEASTER
Summary

Are u really speaking with urself about the server changes or one guy is waking up in the morning with idea and u are implementing that to server?
Might u try maybe to make some kinda of strawpolls between urselves inside of team?
See the different way of view?
What the update will change?
What will fck up?
Is it worth it?
After all the voices maybe u will put some changes into main idea?

We are still waiting for a lot of basic things,
maybe finally usefull shop researcher without tons of items which arent existing on server?
Im always comparing this server to polish servers, most of the changes which we are missing,
basic changes in any polish server with any polish technic will be made in less than 24hr's,
nothing fcked up,
everything working.
✅I hope to finally see u doing a good job without 10 fixes after single patch.✅
 

IDemonI

Well-known member
Lmao we are in turkey got me rolling on the floor.
On the other hand, totally agree with what you said. Costumes were only needed for bosses that are broken.
 

otrivine

New member
the next update that will come after the topic that will be discussed for a lot of pages:

"new update: we added beach chairs as decor to the city and now the grass in the city is a bit darker. super shiny costume is coming too."
 

r1r2r3

Active member
Are u really speaking with urself about the server changes or one guy is waking up in the morning with idea and u are implementing that to server?
Probably a question many of us ask ourselves.
With the off-chance of being seen as aggressive towards the server/staff once again, I will say that, judging the way team members reply/interact with us, there is no impression whatsoever of team cohesion or team decisions. Most things seem to be done on a whim or a result of simply following a plan. It hasn't been one instance only when the replies of 2 members on the same topic were different.

In the same tune as Otrivine, I can say that I appreciate that the one staff member we all pretend we don't know who they are keeps on having fun and adding flora and fauna in map 1 to the point sitting in it becomes obnoxious as hell. Perhaps they should engage more with... actually managing things around.
 

Areya

Community Manager
Staff member
Hello all and thank you Bombercik for speaking your mind about your current concerns,

I know you might not be looking for a reply from me since the current topic does not include areas of my handling, however, speaking in the name of the team is something I can do in order to help you understand where we are coming from when making decisions.

Let us all go through the topics discussed above:

❌ Pvp desync which is incredible, reported probably after 1st pvp's on server, seems like we doesnt care ❌
As you said, this issue has been one of the monsters under our bed ever since we opened the server. We have obviously looked into ways to get rid of the problem but until now have not managed to find a feasible solution.

• Does that mean we stopped looking for a fix? No.
• Can we remove the feature until we can introduce it into the server bug-free? Unfortunately not but ngl it'd be a fun prank. As annoying as it is to you, it's the same for us but unfortunately, until we have a solution, it's an evil we have to live with.
• Should we speak about it every time we make an announcement just so you know it's still in our attention? I mean... weird kink but no.


❌Bugged cerberus❌
Just as above, unless we manage to find someone who handles Metin2 animation issues on a daily, any bug related to any of the models in-game caused by the model itself or the animation cannot be fixed.


• Can this item be removed from the game? Sure.
• Should we delete an item that dozens of people paid money/yang for months ago? We do not have that option.


❌Useless pvp events❌ I'll just put these together
There is a small update coming up on the server which is part of the Chapter 3 content updates. The update will trigger the beginning of the development of the PVP "industry" inside the game. Further details to follow. Regarding the handicap, the train of thought behind that is part of our initiative to help even out the kingdom sizes. We are aware that without intervention, just one of the 3 kingdoms will hold the majority of the server population as well as all victory when it comes to Nation War. From a technical point of view, that is not sustainable for the server (or we'd bring Johwa back since everyone loved it) nor would it be fun if you look at the consequences from a gameplay perspective. Unfortunately, not everyone is used to playing as part of the Jinno kingdom and that is something we must respect.


❌2 different patches, 2 different way of decision making. Lets compare changes with aqua drake and adding costumes with bonuses. ❌
When we decide to implement a new feature/item on the server, it's most likely because it is part of a bigger scheme of development. We did not give you the chance to gain more power through an item/bonus so the server becomes easier. We did it so we can help you prepare for what's coming. Some players understood that, but some didn't. Should we have added those bonuses on paid items in the Item Mall and see the gap between you all become bigger? No, we chose to add it to an item that is generally available to everyone for free in exchange for your gameplay.

Wom2- is this project really having future?

Everything has a beginning and an end. What truly matters is we're here right now.
 

Sarcosuchus

Well-known member
We did it so we can help you prepare for what's coming.
please don't make 30 days costumes a requirement for new dungeons and bosses to be added. this is not a help for players. i even think it is unfair. the biggest unfairness is against the suras.
for example: I had 98% fire resistance and had a hard time farming razador. with costumes and a few attackers with below average items, razador can be farmed very easily.
after meley is added dozens of players will have to buy a skin every 30 days just for fire resistance.
If you don't add it to the item shop, thank you. please don't add it to the 30 day costumes and tire the players out.
if your goal was not to help players, if costumes are needed for things to come, then let's add bonuses to permed costumes.
most of the time players don't like or even hate limited items
 

Keen

New member

Wom2- is this project really having future?

Everything has a beginning and an end. What truly matters is we're here right now.
The old Wom2 was online for 8 years, while the recent Wom2 has had issues after just one year. Honestly, from my perspective, this server is not going to replace the old Wom2... and you said, 'everything has a beginning and an end.' Does this mean that Wom2 will be closed soon, maybe within a year or less?
No hate, but I really tried to play. The fishing system and costumes with bonuses... with each update, it feels like it’s moving further away from being 'Wom2.
 

VFour

New member
The bottom line is: WoM2 had a vision from the start, with some tweaks here and there but one vision, which helped with consistency.
This server is trying to mirror it, which makes it harder. It is hard to follow someone else's vision.
This is not a bad server but..
I said it before and I will say it again: You backed yourselves into a corner by stating that this is "WoM2". You could have just named it anything else with WoM2 files and it would be way easier on you.
A copy will never be as good as the original, it is easy to copy what is done, to develop on that is the hard part.
 

r1r2r3

Active member
Remember the thread with the poll asking the players if they're satisfied with the team's decisions? No insults, no bad manners, just a simple question.
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
The guy who made the thread is most likely banned on the forums too.
I also don't really understand why Areya is now answering threads like this one on the forums. It was made pretty clear, from the first month of the server, that she's not a Community Manager (despite her role). I think the players want a more definite answer from someone who has the power to change something, not from someone who barely interacts with the playerbase seriously.
 

IDemonI

Well-known member
Well if nothing changes, we are doomed in the near future ngl. Those updates that everybody just mentioned are from people that dont even play the game😭😭😭 then, when players tell them they are delulu and stuff, they get offended. Bcs we are in 2024 where everyone is a snowflake ☠️ so yeah as @darwizzy said,

hire new people or just kill the project

Thats just the right things to do. Well, of course, that if you have some respect for it.
 

darwizzy

Active member
I have played maybe 3-4 hours this past month, only did activites with my guild, which is also not to excited about the future of the server. Personally if i dont see a statement from the team addressing the current issues i don't see myself on a server that "has a beginning and an end".

Hopefully tomorrow's battlepass won't be another nail in the coffin.
 

Toxic

Well-known member
You're all right but as always we'll communicate on the forum and not be heard and/or be ignored/shut down.
I could complain again about the higher level issues but alas, they all know what's broken and why and it seems like they don't care.
I've lost interest in it again and it's not just me, most people that are here from the start did. I doubt it'll make a miraculous comeback but here's hoping
 

Stforjanka

Active member
❌ Pvp desync which is incredible, reported probably after 1st pvp's on server, seems like we doesnt care ❌
As you said, this issue has been one of the monsters under our bed ever since we opened the server. We have obviously looked into ways to get rid of the problem but until now have not managed to find a feasible solution.
Would it not be possible to buy the solution from other servers that solved the issue, but are small/dying so they don't care about competition?
 
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