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What about Sura AM in PvM?

Alexutzu

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This topic is so alive and full of bad reviews with so many replies and views. And still nobody answers our questions and problems. (Essence only commented when a guy here started swearing) We need an answer to know what we are going to do:switch to another class or wait for an improvement. How is it possible for a mage to do more dmg than a sura? Because at this point even mage seems a better option. Anyway, with all the replies and complaints you (wom2 staff) should at least give us some info on the matter, if u want to do something or just let the things be this way. (and ofc give us some arguments for the decision)
 

Leka

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This topic is so alive and full of bad reviews with so many replies and views. And still nobody answers our questions and problems. (Essence only commented when a guy here started swearing) We need an answer to know what we are going to do:switch to another class or wait for an improvement. How is it possible for a mage to do more dmg than a sura? Because at this point even mage seems a better option. Anyway, with all the replies and complaints you (wom2 staff) should at least give us some info on the matter, if u want to do something or just let the things be this way. (and ofc give us some arguments for the decision)
Agreed, make a statement saying if you're going to do anything or not, so we know if we gonna switch xD
 

kristivlore

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I have switched too and to be honest the body warrior is overpowered. It bothers me to restart again and feels like I've wasted time playing as a sura. I don't see the necessity of nerfing a class that excels exclusively on pvm. This is the first time I see a class on a private server that does worse than the official. What surprises me the most is that to some war players here this is ok.
 
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xXTr3FlaXx

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This topic is so alive and full of bad reviews with so many replies and views. And still nobody answers our questions and problems. (Essence only commented when a guy here started swearing) We need an answer to know what we are going to do:switch to another class or wait for an improvement. How is it possible for a mage to do more dmg than a sura? Because at this point even mage seems a better option. Anyway, with all the replies and complaints you (wom2 staff) should at least give us some info on the matter, if u want to do something or just let the things be this way. (and ofc give us some arguments for the decision)
I'd rather leave the server than start playing another character, I hate the warrior and will never trade the sura to play warrior. I play sura since 2009
 

Jappkin

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I agree with that, however, having +470 defense, buffs, and an M8 blade&fear is not enough when I'm going for 65 stones as example. At times, I find myself thinking about the sura low attack speed or insufficient damage. In the future, sd3...
 

Smokas

Member
Well shaman skill books cost more then enchanted blade i think its the only server this happens ...
This can tell how good the char is.
Healer mage does more dmg then wp sura !!!!!!!!!
 

Presofix

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Staff have God complex, they don't care what you say, they will never buff sura. I remember when they did some mistake in the past, few years ago, a lot of people complained, and instead of admitting their mistake and change it, they threatened people that they will get ban if they comment on staff work. They always do random stuff that doesn't make sense, like last change with full inventory....
I personally like this server I even payed money to "support" it like manny of u did, but staff rlly need to start think about players also, and not just; lets get the most money while server is alive.
 

ckinimod

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If they could atleast revert the ench.blade absorb back to its original version that would be fine.

The best change is dispelling brand - basically useless :D
You cant defend vs any other player, except if you get int to P. Even then, what use does dispel have, when the buffs kick in instant? :ROFLMAO:
 

Loco

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The best change is dispelling brand - basically useless :D
You cant defend vs any other player, except if you get int to P. Even then, what use does dispel have, when the buffs kick in instant? :ROFLMAO:
The Dispelling Brand debuff turned the sura into a more duel focused class that tries to burst down their tagets. The increased dmg on dispelled targets is a good idea but turns the ability into something pretty useless in open pvp. I would love to see it get a bigger aoe radius to make it usable in open pvp without it being insanely annoying for any class that uses buffs and can’t activate them agan right away.
 

GGeox

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Sura has no lifesteal and no dmg right now, it's unplayable lower lvl.
Lower level? Try lvl 70, completed ice marble biologist, 50 attack armor, ebony earrings+9, fms+9 35% avg, stones+4, 106 int, g4 enchanted blade, military horse, doing lower damage (and dps since attack speed is lower) than my friend who's lvl 40 warrior with m8 aura of sword and rib +9 30% avg.
I've played both sura and warrior on many servers, and it is known that sura does a bit less dps than warrior (having greater resistance) but this difference is absurd. Also, I have 600 armor, 15k pv, 15% evasion, m8 enchanted armor, m7 fear, shamy with m8 buffs (which gives 21% crit and resistance), 25% earth resistance and 15% magic and I'm still running away from level 85 stones in red forest and doing 2.1k crit on them and it takes an eternity to kill the stone, so there goes "greater resistance".
Playing as a weaponary sura on this server is like running with ankle weights and I've invested too much time and money to switch to warrior now... kinda disappointing.
 
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ckinimod

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Lower level? Try lvl 70, completed ice marble biologist, 50 attack armor, ebony earrings+9, fms+9 35% avg, stones+4, 106 int, g4 enchanted blade, military horse, doing lower damage (and dps since attack speed is lower) than my friend who's lvl 40 warrior with m8 aura of sword and rib +9 30% avg.
I've played both sura and warrior on many servers, and it is known that sura does a bit less dps than warrior (having greater resistance) but this difference is absurd. Also, I have 600 armor, 15k pv, 15% evasion, m8 enchanted armor, m7 fear, shamy with m8 buffs (which gives 21% crit and resistance), 25% earth resistance and 15% magic and I'm still running away from level 85 stones in red forest and doing 2.1k crit on them and it takes an eternity to kill the stone, so there goes "greater resistance".
Playing as a weaponary sura on this server is like running with ankle weights and I've invested too much time and money to switch to warrior now... kinda disappointing.
They really need to revert atleast the ench. blade absorb change back to its value.
Weapon sura without absorb is basically no weapon sura - I dont know why they did that change in the first place?
@Essence maybe you can help us clear things up?
 

Essence

Administrator
Staff member
Hi guys,


Just for your information and after asking one of the developers to double-check, there hasn't been any changes in the absorption bonus.


Kind regards,
Essence.
 

Zezerino

Member
Hi guys,


Just for your information and after asking one of the developers to double-check, there hasn't been any changes in the absorption bonus.


Kind regards,
Essence.


it is from old wom, did you ask an old developer? Do you have old patch notes ?
 

Essence

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Staff member
it is from old wom, did you ask an old developer? Do you have old patch notes ?

Unfortunately I cannot provide you with any names of servers/companies, but I can tell you it's how it's always been since the release of the game.
 

Jappkin

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Hi guys,


Just for your information and after asking one of the developers to double-check, there hasn't been any changes in the absorption bonus.


Kind regards,
Essence.
But that doesn't change the situation at all. From the point of view of many, sura has no advantages in either PVM or PVP. I saw that you opened a topic on the forum related to PVP. How can you address this aspect given that it takes at least two months for players to acquire decent items?

I understand that the server is a PVM HARD type, but consider this simple fact: at the beginning, some upgrade items were extremely easy to obtain, and now, some of these items are astronomically expensive.

Someone mentioned that sura is a character that can become powerful in the later stages of the game. However, does that mean investing over 100 hours of gameplay or even more? How many players will endure such a grueling journey?

I believe that the Easter event was not designed well. This event discourages players from farming Metin stones, which provide the best PVM items. Isn't the objective of the game to reward the player with the most dedication and effort? Not to mention the rewards; even on the official server, if you farm for, let's say, 8 hours, you can usually say that it was worth the effort. However, on this server, the rewards consist of fireworks, bosses that lower-level players may struggle to defeat, and many other details that make a significant difference.

P.S: https://global.wom2.com/board/threads/bonus-adder-drops.433/#post-2219 and... PVM HARD? As the days go by, this situation becomes more and more ridiculous, leaving only one story to be told.
 

Ozzy

Member
But that doesn't change the situation at all. From the point of view of many, sura has no advantages in either PVM or PVP. I saw that you opened a topic on the forum related to PVP. How can you address this aspect given that it takes at least two months for players to acquire decent items?

I understand that the server is a PVM HARD type, but consider this simple fact: at the beginning, some upgrade items were extremely easy to obtain, and now, some of these items are astronomically expensive.

Someone mentioned that sura is a character that can become powerful in the later stages of the game. However, does that mean investing over 100 hours of gameplay or even more? How many players will endure such a grueling journey?

I believe that the Easter event was not designed well. This event discourages players from farming Metin stones, which provide the best PVM items. Isn't the objective of the game to reward the player with the most dedication and effort? Not to mention the rewards; even on the official server, if you farm for, let's say, 8 hours, you can usually say that it was worth the effort. However, on this server, the rewards consist of fireworks, bosses that lower-level players may struggle to defeat, and many other details that make a significant difference.

P.S: https://global.wom2.com/board/threads/bonus-adder-drops.433/#post-2219 and... PVM HARD? As the days go by, this situation becomes more and more ridiculous, leaving only one story to be told.
i will endure the cruel journey. i have way more than 100 hours and im sura,im lvl 76 and i enjoy it ,it was worth!
 

Loco

Member
I believe that the Easter event was not designed well. This event discourages players from farming Metin stones, which provide the best PVM items. Isn't the objective of the game to reward the player with the most dedication and effort? Not to mention the rewards; even on the official server, if you farm for, let's say, 8 hours, you can usually say that it was worth the effort. However, on this server, the rewards consist of fireworks, bosses that lower-level players may struggle to defeat, and many other details that make a significant difference.

P.S: https://global.wom2.com/board/threads/bonus-adder-drops.433/#post-2219 and... PVM HARD? As the days go by, this situation becomes more and more ridiculous, leaving only one story to be told.

Those two topics have nothing to do with this thread. The event had tons to good rewards from changers and exorcism scrolls to exp bracelets.

The Map thing is not about the amount of dropped adders as that person did like 500 Maps but it’s about adders being less needed than the other items that drop causing a potential flooding of the market.
 
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