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Kutaku

Kutaku

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AuraCollector said:
So there has been some drama going on now, for about 1 month before the big guild tournament, the 3 big guilds (mind you that i'm not part of any of those guilds, so i will try to say this as objectively as possible) gathered on Off-Topic, and started the word-fight way before the actual tournament, nothing new here just hyping up as usual.
But it literally turned into a harassement fest really fast, and to my surprise, it's still going on. People are throwing numerous refferences to other's real life View attachment 3533View attachment 3534View attachment 3535View attachment 3536View attachment 3537View attachment 3538View attachment 3539
Turning the whole discord into a clown fiesta. What did the staff do? Exiled 1 guy over the course of those few month. 1 single soul got exiled, that is it.
Furthermore, it actually seems that the staff is not impartial anymore (or never was) becouse you cannot tell me this is normal on any server View attachment 3540
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If you report certain players you either get ignored or you're met with a response such as this one^
On the other hand, if you are from the other group you're met with this kind of treatment:
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This is not even the worse of the worst, I have a much more questionable screenshot I wont even risk posting here. I don't think this kind of staff behavior is healthy for this server, and honestly I gotta ask, are we going to get banned in the near future for pissing off the wrong guy? Becouse right now it seems that this is the direction we're
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Vanity said:
Areya, with all due respect - I have 4 Discord accounts that have been Exiled for less than what some of the people affiliated with RB (and not only) have done on off-topic in the period before the GT (2-3 weeks) and up until even these past couple of days.

I understand and can see for myself that both parties have engages in harassment and personal attacks, but since before the GT and up until now, the grand majority of Hated players have not engaged in such behavior. Instead, they have been harassed and, quite frankly, wrongfully accused of a scam - and the accusers weren't even remotely connected to that scam.

And then there's the multiple rainbow emoji reacts, references to 35/clean, playing standing up as you can see in the pictures above that have been going on for a very long time. I personally had to send a ticket regarding someone because that player would keep it up and the staff wouldn't do anything regarding it - even if staff members were online and active in that chat at the moment.

This is simply sad, honestly. You refused to intervene due to trying to preserve a competitive community, instead you allowed Hated members and their supporters to be harassed for over one month regarding various thins. And, of course, when Hated members brought things up, made comments, etc., they were immediately shut down - mutes, timeouts, Exiles and so on. On the other hand, if you compare the temporary bans for mutes and harassment in-game, you'll notice that the "other side" might have more - with certain individuals from RB having multiple offences, but always receiving the same limited punishment.

There's not very much transparency going on in this regard, honestly. I might be wrong, but this is the view from my side.

Point is - there is constant harassment on off-topic, and RB and the gang always reduce themselves to personal insults, references to people being gay and so on, while Hated-side, even before you made that announcement regarding "how" we should be competitive, was strictly mentioning their wins on the PvP scene on the server.
If you as a team cannot come to a conclusion and see that there's obvious harassment in the middle, the result (threads like this one, unsatisfaction) are completely normal.

Then there's the issue of... weird bans for RMT? Redman is confirmed RMTer, but with only 2 accounts banned and he's STILL a promoter? YOu mentioned today you didn't want convincts being shown in Discord, as an explanation for the disappearance of the Exiled section, but people banned in the past for RMT and bug abuse - including Tasky, mind you - still have full privileges on the server.

Tell me - what is the purpose of banning ONLY involved accounts for RMT/bugs if you know the owner has more accounts?

Oh, speaking of exiled people - I'm seeing a couple of names that used to have been Exiled for a very long time now alive and kicking as normal Players, some even typing to spite others.

I say this will all due respect - transparency lacks, equality lacks. I know punishments have not always been equal since Baloo muted me for talking Romanian in call chat and the next day, when I asked Mamut, he told he they haven't been banning for that for a long-long time, but this is too much.
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i noticed it myself Pyke got unexiled and got promoter too. im myself are more or less blacklisted on the discord i got banned on 5 acc there only cuz some ppl say " its kutaku" so well more or less i see the team is kinda transparent but well some of RB sees it as hated sided some of hated sees it as RB sided so ig they atleast tried it in the past to be transparent and maybe now they actually are.
 
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Moozak

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Synesthesia said:
It's like putting someone on trial in front of everyone and then later saying, "Actually, never mind."

Whether the unbans happen because mistakes were made or because the investigation eventually proves their innocence, the end result is the same: people lose confidence in the process. To the average player, it doesn't look professional. It just makes the staff appear inconsistent, biased, or even corrupt, even when that might not actually be the case.
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Taking in consideration the severity of alegations and the person who was accused of them i think having it announced was a good thing and it makes the staff show that even bigger fishes arent untouchable.

In my opinion i think the preliminary proof showed was probably enough to merit a trial in front of everyone or else they wouldn't have went with this route.

I will also be the one to say that if Acab is innocent he should be unbanned and openly excused of every allegation that has been made against him.


Regarding the part with the average player losing confidence in the staff.
In my opinion this can easly be resolved by carrying us through their tought process. Transparency would only make the trust in the team grow.
 
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Duarte

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Lanceloth said:
Lets dont speak about toxicity, ss from today only couse i killed his crap accs, stop pe cringe all know your same person, your not smart, all make fun of you, i think even GMs they laughed when they saw this post🤡
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Well I think I can speak loud my toughts too atm.
My family was insulted by some miserable people. Instead, when I contacted the staff, I received the same "thank you for contacting us" response like an AI robot that generates the same type of message endlessly. When trying to contact the staff on discord, excuses appeared such as that the insults were not on the official wom2 discord server, although in the same discussions there were threats against the staff as well as information about the possibility that certain people from the staff could be found in certain places, details about their studies, etc. Regarding the insults in the game, I was addressed with very difficult to reproduce things, for which RB players were sanctioned with mutes, at most a day's ban. Having said that, I believe that the people who manage the tickets are either incompetent, or indifferent, OR NOT IMPARTIAL.
 
Kasuiton

Kasuiton

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Kutaku said:
i noticed it myself Pyke got unexiled and got promoter too. im myself are more or less blacklisted on the discord i got banned on 5 acc there only cuz some ppl say " its kutaku" so well more or less i see the team is kinda transparent but well some of RB sees it as hated sided some of hated sees it as RB sided so ig they atleast tried it in the past to be transparent and maybe now they actually are.
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Ban Kutaku on forum too
 
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Metin2Expert

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Saying "we can ban players without showing any evidence" is one of the fastest ways to destroy trust in a game community. It turns moderation into something that feels random, personal, or even abusive instead of fair and professional. Players invest hundreds of hours into their accounts, progression, items, and social reputation. Taking all of that away without proof creates the feeling that anyone can be punished at any moment for unknown reasons. That atmosphere spreads paranoia through the entire community like digital fog.

In real life, almost every serious system is built around transparency and evidence. Courts require proof. Schools explain punishments. Workplaces document violations. Even online platforms usually provide at least some reason for suspensions or bans. No trustworthy system says, “We punished you, but you are not allowed to know why.” That mindset belongs more to authoritarian power than to fair administration.

Of course, moderators do not always need to reveal every technical detail or anti-cheat method, because some information could help actual cheaters avoid detection. But refusing to show any evidence or explanation at all is completely different. It removes accountability. Once there is no accountability, players cannot distinguish between legitimate moderation and bias, favoritism, personal grudges, corruption, or mistakes.

A game community survives on trust. The moment players believe punishments can happen secretly and without proof, every ban becomes suspicious. Innocent players stop feeling safe. Reports lose credibility. Staff decisions start looking arbitrary instead of reliable. Eventually the community stops seeing moderators as protectors of fairness and starts seeing them as unchecked authority.
 
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Pushergene

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You are not right. When the stuff have the reason. they can do what they want. The team is from beginning there and they know how to handle the situation and dont forget. its a privat server not a offical server. on a offical server you can talk like this. + At the moment the server going all the way up. so they do god job.
Metin2Expert said:
Saying "we can ban players without showing any evidence" is one of the fastest ways to destroy trust in a game community. It turns moderation into something that feels random, personal, or even abusive instead of fair and professional. Players invest hundreds of hours into their accounts, progression, items, and social reputation. Taking all of that away without proof creates the feeling that anyone can be punished at any moment for unknown reasons. That atmosphere spreads paranoia through the entire community like digital fog.

In real life, almost every serious system is built around transparency and evidence. Courts require proof. Schools explain punishments. Workplaces document violations. Even online platforms usually provide at least some reason for suspensions or bans. No trustworthy system says, “We punished you, but you are not allowed to know why.” That mindset belongs more to authoritarian power than to fair administration.

Of course, moderators do not always need to reveal every technical detail or anti-cheat method, because some information could help actual cheaters avoid detection. But refusing to show any evidence or explanation at all is completely different. It removes accountability. Once there is no accountability, players cannot distinguish between legitimate moderation and bias, favoritism, personal grudges, corruption, or mistakes.

A game community survives on trust. The moment players believe punishments can happen secretly and without proof, every ban becomes suspicious. Innocent players stop feeling safe. Reports lose credibility. Staff decisions start looking arbitrary instead of reliable. Eventually the community stops seeing moderators as protectors of fairness and starts seeing them as unchecked authori
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Metin2Expert

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Pushergene said:
You are not right. When the stuff have the reason. they can do what they want. The team is from beginning there and they know how to handle the situation and dont forget. its a privat server not a offical server. on a offical server you can talk like this. + At the moment the server going all the way up. so they do god job.
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First of all, it is not "stuff", it is "staff" secondly, we are investing money and time here just to trust some people's decisions without proofs? No thanks, I will pass.
 
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Pushergene

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i invest also money and itme. i got punished also without proof and i accept the choice of the staff. if i do something wrong i stay also for it. But i dont need to lie like some other people. btw every player have the chance to proof that its not like this. so i dont know where all the yapping comes
 
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Pushergene

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I admit—I don't deny it—that I am at fault in some matters. Others ought to step up and own their guilt, too, instead of just whining and lying.
 
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