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PvP - Defence Scaling

Blasphem

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I really hope that the above will be taken into serious consideration and should be deemed a priority. Unfortunately, the current state of the server does not allow pvp content to be properly enjoyed and the effects are evident:
- low participation in pvp events (dojan and NW) at every level and especially at high levels;
- total absence of open word pvp, both open pvp and 1v1 (which has always been the feature that makes Metin2 different from other games of the genre) at every level and especially at high levels;
- consequently, less incentive to achieve goals pushing players to leave the server.
It would seem that this issue is not totally ignored by those who administer the server in fact something has been done: one of the modes introduced to increase the "pvp resistance/duration" of players in pvp is the change of dragon claw and dragon breath skills. However, it is clear that the drop rate of these books is very low and makes it, in fact, impossible for most players to increase these skills.
In any case, even this small change, which needs improvement in terms of drop rates, is useful but way far from being sufficient!
Those who played the old wom2 remember the huge participation in pvp events, with guild tournaments that had a participation of 5-6 guilds at each level as well as large opvp fights and duels (so called "10 set") with a huge audience and hype for the whole server.

This can be done because the server remains the best around (in my opinion) but a few more steps need to be taken. There would also be a need to talk about upgrades and change rates, implementing ways to reduce the impact of the RNG (perhaps introducing items that, even very expensive, would guarantee success) but this is not the place.

Just a few videos to refresh the memory:

Blasphemy
 

Kutaku

Member
It appears that the defense mechanics in PvP do not function the same as they do on other servers, contributing to the issue of excessive PvP damage in the game.
Having 60% sword defence only reduces the damage by 30% (50% of intended Value).
This wasn't the case on Old WoM2. I've tested it on Old wom, new Wom, official servers and other P-Servers and it never worked like this.

Basically all level ranges keep complaining about the current situation, but nothing changes. (And before you say the same phrase again: No Nemere items will not help enough either.

PvP situation in low lvl if you use full Push + Medal (you have +- 16k HP with 3/5 Max 1 vs 1 Bonuses on every single EQ piece)
- 5k Pierce hits
- 10k + Skill dmg (with the best Skill) on Physical Skills
- 4-7k Skill DMG from Magic Classes

You die with 2-4 skills. This is basically unplayable. We managed to invite over 20 people to make low lvl PvP chars and half of them quit after not being able to remotely play the game. In order to have ''fun'' we have to play without Alchemy, Push, Medals and more just to not die 2 hit.

What would I change:
Put Weapon Defences back to normal 100% effectiveness and Magic Resist to 75-80% (since you can have more magic def then on old server)

This would also fix:
- Farmers doing too much dmg for no reason
- 1 vs 1 Duells to last longer then 1 Skill Set
- Opvp playable for Close combat classes
- Making Equipment with rare Bonuses worth the investment
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Ano

Active member
pvp on this server is ok how it is (said by the best pvp guild on this server Hated). Some ppl already complained about the upprates but pushing them self after doing something +9 and acting like how easy it is 😂 old wom was way to easy every kid had +9 stuff and cl5 alchemy everything was easy to get but not here and im glad about it that you feel the succes if do it
 

Ano

Active member
also we dont know what happens in future updates we dont know what the staff has in mind
 

PlaQ

Well-known member
pvp on this server is ok how it is (said by the best pvp guild on this server Hated). Some ppl already complained about the upprates but pushing them self after doing something +9 and acting like how easy it is 😂 old wom was way to easy every kid had +9 stuff and cl5 alchemy everything was easy to get but not here and im glad about it that you feel the succes if do it
How to reply to something witout any arguments. Great input
 

PlaQ

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ppl like you expect 1k dmg difference between cl2 and cl4-5 alchemy 😂
You have clearly not understood my points so far and yet you feel entitled to continue the conversation. It is amusing. Great responses so far. Keep it going.
 

Ano

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You have clearly not understood my points so far and yet you feel entitled to continue the conversation. It is amusing. Great responses so far. Keep it going.
you are testing something with 16k hp so i guess it was 59 pvp? text here again when you reach the highlvl with envolved pvp stuff since i saw in ur guild war 6vs6 where you guys had only 2 envolved pvp weapons and not even +9 so i dont even know why you created this thread just bullshiting with some tests at 59 get some nemere eq. I was at the last big nation war and everyone was fine and had fun there and im talking here about yellow and blue kingdom where are the most or even all highlvl players
 

PlaQ

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you are testing something with 16k hp so i guess it was 59 pvp? text here again when you reach the highlvl with envolved pvp stuff since i saw in ur guild war 6vs6 where you guys had only 2 envolved pvp weapons and not even +9 so i dont even know why you created this thread just bullshiting with some tests at 59 get some nemere eq. I was at the last big nation war and everyone was fine and had fun there and im talking here about yellow and blue kingdom where are the most or even all highlvl players
Since you do not seem to understand my point, I would like you to understand the following.
First and foremost, PvP is meant to exist between all lvl's. Wom2 is particularly known for this. Quick sidenote you had more HP on old server as well.
Secondly, I would like you to look at older Wom2 videos of fully equipped chars and count the skills used in each duel and compare it to now. You may notice that the number of skills used per duel was almost double indicating that the overall dmg is too high. Most likely the reason for this is my stated ''buged'' defence scaling. Your vision in these conversations is simply not good enough to understand this.
 
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Ano

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Since you do not seem to understand my point, I would like you to understand the following.
First and foremost, PvP is meant to exist between all lvl's. Wom2 is particularly known for this.
Secondly, I would like you to look at older Wom2 videos of fully equipped chars and count the skills used in each duel and compare it to now. You may notice that the number of skills used per duel was almost double indicating that the overall dmg is too high. Most likely the reason for this is my stated ''buged'' defence scaling. Your vision in these conversations is simply not good enough to understand this.
bro just so you know there are categories for pvp yes but you shouldnt forget that wom2 always focused on the highlvl. Dont tell me something about old server i was playing there 8 years and was also one of the best players. Why should they change now something for ur lowlvl sh!t and f*ck the whole highlvl system while we got the nemere eq now? Dont be dumb take the fking stick out of ur ass and play this game. I Played the old server without nemere eq and with full pvp i had 2 full pvp acc's with 4 pages cl5 i did many 1v1 with the whole server while ur guild was hiding ( not even joining the opvp on the old server) i dont need to watch any videos with pvp i have my own 40+ videos where i fked everyone in all my playtime. I can show you my old video where i fighted in set against BvS and we both died after 3 Skills so where is the different here?
 

PlaQ

Well-known member
bro just so you know there are categories for pvp yes but you shouldnt forget that wom2 always focused on the highlvl. Dont tell me something about old server i was playing there 8 years and was also one of the best players. Why should they change now something for ur lowlvl sh!t and f*ck the whole highlvl system while we got the nemere eq now? Dont be dumb take the fking stick out of ur ass and play this game. I Played the old server without nemere eq and with full pvp i had 2 full pvp acc's with 4 pages cl5 i did many 1v1 with the whole server while ur guild was hiding ( not even joining the opvp on the old server) i dont need to watch any videos with pvp i have my own 40+ videos where i fked everyone in all my playtime. I can show you my old video where i fighted in set against BvS and we both died after 3 Skills so where is the different here?
Since you clearly cant see it I will not continue talking with you. You just refuse to agree for no reason. For everyone else it should be obvious that the DMG output was way lower in the past.
 

Ano

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Since you clearly cant see it I will not continue talking with you. You just refuse to agree for no reason. For everyone else it should be obvious that the DMG output was way lower in the past.
as i said you are just bullshitting at low lvl and you have 0 experience about highlvl and want to roll pvp things without knowing the consequences of the server 😂
 
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