Zwierz
Member
Where do you see aggression? Did you see your father in the door or something?
I have never used any bugs, cheats or robbed anyone in my life, so I'm very sorry.
Overpowered Ninja
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I have never used any bugs, cheats or robbed anyone in my life, so I'm very sorry.
Kumandan
Member
Dear GMs,
ZalimMelek tells every new player that “me and us (Wikis) are using bugs and you guys are ignoring it”. I personally don't know how much I would trust this server if I just started and heard something like this. Can you clarify this issue because he has been publicly accusing you of not doing your job and favoring players for months.
Regards
@Asteria
ZalimMelek tells every new player that “me and us (Wikis) are using bugs and you guys are ignoring it”. I personally don't know how much I would trust this server if I just started and heard something like this. Can you clarify this issue because he has been publicly accusing you of not doing your job and favoring players for months.
Regards
@Asteria
CaptainAntilles
New member
Please nerf the ninja.
There are like 20 people with level 80 ninja characters hogging the farm in Red Forest.
Also, this is severely impacting dungeon dynamics, as a good poly marble is around 20kk and you can sell the Beran chest, realistically for 60kk, which, lets face it, is not worth it.
There are like 20 people with level 80 ninja characters hogging the farm in Red Forest.
Also, this is severely impacting dungeon dynamics, as a good poly marble is around 20kk and you can sell the Beran chest, realistically for 60kk, which, lets face it, is not worth it.
Hello,
this of course has to be checked if its true, and if so, has to be sanctioned accordingly (will talk with our GM team regardin in-game matters). Please calm down over here and stay on topic otherwise i'll just close this thread since it makes not much sense anymore.
Remember, reports of any kind can be sent to our support email anytime.
Take care.
Regards
Zwierz
Member
Wtf who use 20kk marble for beran setao, u can do it easy with 4kk snake marble XD
3XK
Active member
Ah yes. What a game this would be if only one class dominated PvM exclusively with others not having any competitive edge over it…
Never mind, seems like everyone conveniently has forgotten that this was exactly the same case with Warriors for two years. The class was completely untouchable in terms of its PvM performance and most of You didn’t blink an eye, even when warriors (who were already the strongest class) received further Berserk buffs.
Just because someone was clever enough to figure this out, and it wasn’t You, it doesn’t mean it has to be nerfed. Just because You’ve invested into warriors and it turned out someone can outperform You, and You don’t like feel investing money and time into a new class, doesn’t mean Your point is valid. May I remind You, that this server faced that once before with Sura, and everyone who at the time has made a high level Sura had to start over because as it turned out, the class is like warrior, but with a healthy dose of autism.
And to top it all off, whoever plays mage or sura cannot do anything about warriors. You can throw a rapture and if it succeeds, that’s Your best case scenario. That’s it.
With ninjas there are things You can do, such as braking the Polly, which is incredibly easy. I won’t get into the details on approaching the ninjas in the most annoying way, but there are methods. So at the very least, ninjas can be significantly set back. I mean, if You brake his marble at an inconvenient moment, you legit delete 20kk of profit just like that.
Now in regards to the balance itself:
Although ninja has an enormous damage on Polly, it’s not all sunshine and rainbows. It faces a completely different set of threats and issues:
- unavailable gear which is always a problem, especially now with higher demand
- metins bugging/server lag/ purposely created by wom staff (as confirmed by Amun who calls it more “dramatic”), where a stone will remain at 0% with all the spawned mobs hitting Your 0 defence ninja (ninja doesn’t get armour from items, only alchemy and spirit stones)
- complete lack of mobility forcing You to dual box way more effectively than any other class, as You are completely reliant on Your mage.
- the gameplay is just 10 times more attentive than warrior because of these issues. Doesn’t matter how good Your gear is, You will die if You don’t pay attention on higher level metins.
The overall risk factor is significantly higher and therefore higher rewards are completely valid. Not to mention that a competitive, well developed warrior is not much behind in terms of its performance. Yes, ninja packs a way bigger single hit punch, but warriors animation bonded with attack speed allows it to almost catch up. Can’t speak for Beta, but in Helia and below a fully developed warrior doesn’t struggle to keep the pace and given how much more expensive ninja is to play, I would say that slightly quicker clear is reasonable.
Now regarding the argument that Ninja is broken because it doesn't have to develop it's mount:
Who cares? This is a hard PvM server, You have been here for months, if not years. You know that doing a full 100 lv mount is couple of days job + roughly 2kkk investment. That's nothing in a long run. You do it once and never look back. It's only an obstacle for new players, and these players can't play ninja anyways because Poly P will take weeks, if not longer. At the same time an experienced level 60 farmer on Ninja will ruin their day just as much as an experienced lv 60 warrior. Actually warrior will be probably more annoying than the ninja, because he can come and KS You xD
Either way, I am not a staff member but If I were, I would not look at this post seriously unless You also ask for a warrior nerf. I don't see why the server should be monopolized by one class and having a strong ninja is more fun for the game, as it creates a wider spectrum of useful playstyles that actually have utility. If Ninja gets a nerf, so should the warrior to give other classes a competetive chance.
Never mind, seems like everyone conveniently has forgotten that this was exactly the same case with Warriors for two years. The class was completely untouchable in terms of its PvM performance and most of You didn’t blink an eye, even when warriors (who were already the strongest class) received further Berserk buffs.
Just because someone was clever enough to figure this out, and it wasn’t You, it doesn’t mean it has to be nerfed. Just because You’ve invested into warriors and it turned out someone can outperform You, and You don’t like feel investing money and time into a new class, doesn’t mean Your point is valid. May I remind You, that this server faced that once before with Sura, and everyone who at the time has made a high level Sura had to start over because as it turned out, the class is like warrior, but with a healthy dose of autism.
And to top it all off, whoever plays mage or sura cannot do anything about warriors. You can throw a rapture and if it succeeds, that’s Your best case scenario. That’s it.
With ninjas there are things You can do, such as braking the Polly, which is incredibly easy. I won’t get into the details on approaching the ninjas in the most annoying way, but there are methods. So at the very least, ninjas can be significantly set back. I mean, if You brake his marble at an inconvenient moment, you legit delete 20kk of profit just like that.
Now in regards to the balance itself:
Although ninja has an enormous damage on Polly, it’s not all sunshine and rainbows. It faces a completely different set of threats and issues:
- unavailable gear which is always a problem, especially now with higher demand
- metins bugging/server lag/ purposely created by wom staff (as confirmed by Amun who calls it more “dramatic”), where a stone will remain at 0% with all the spawned mobs hitting Your 0 defence ninja (ninja doesn’t get armour from items, only alchemy and spirit stones)
- complete lack of mobility forcing You to dual box way more effectively than any other class, as You are completely reliant on Your mage.
- the gameplay is just 10 times more attentive than warrior because of these issues. Doesn’t matter how good Your gear is, You will die if You don’t pay attention on higher level metins.
The overall risk factor is significantly higher and therefore higher rewards are completely valid. Not to mention that a competitive, well developed warrior is not much behind in terms of its performance. Yes, ninja packs a way bigger single hit punch, but warriors animation bonded with attack speed allows it to almost catch up. Can’t speak for Beta, but in Helia and below a fully developed warrior doesn’t struggle to keep the pace and given how much more expensive ninja is to play, I would say that slightly quicker clear is reasonable.
Now regarding the argument that Ninja is broken because it doesn't have to develop it's mount:
Who cares? This is a hard PvM server, You have been here for months, if not years. You know that doing a full 100 lv mount is couple of days job + roughly 2kkk investment. That's nothing in a long run. You do it once and never look back. It's only an obstacle for new players, and these players can't play ninja anyways because Poly P will take weeks, if not longer. At the same time an experienced level 60 farmer on Ninja will ruin their day just as much as an experienced lv 60 warrior. Actually warrior will be probably more annoying than the ninja, because he can come and KS You xD
Either way, I am not a staff member but If I were, I would not look at this post seriously unless You also ask for a warrior nerf. I don't see why the server should be monopolized by one class and having a strong ninja is more fun for the game, as it creates a wider spectrum of useful playstyles that actually have utility. If Ninja gets a nerf, so should the warrior to give other classes a competetive chance.
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3XK
Active member
Imagine having to tell people 2+2 is 4, actual cinema lmao
Stop crying about ninjas just because the whole server plays braindead aura simply because suras are GUTTED from the nerfs. Playing sura isnt even worth it. On Aura you get a **** ton of free stats after all the unnecessary buffs and yet now ninja is the problem?
I say mind your business and let people play the game.
What the aura does with close to negligible cost, ninja has to invest and is a lot of the time viable only via Poly. And now you warrior crybabies found a way to complain about a different class doing something well. Give me a break.
Vanity
Active member
Well, well, do I have some news for you...