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Ninja BUFF

Straight to the point, the previous nerf of 30 percent heavily impacted the state of ninja. I agree that low level poly ninja deals too much damage given the investment in EQ, however, every high level ninja invested a lot in their chars and to to be nerfed 30 percent is too much. Maybe shrink the nerf to a more reasonable percentage or just nerf low lvl farming.
 

CaptainAntilles

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why is ninja too op?

why?
Beta bosses get farmed way too fast at the moment by ninja farmers.
You can solo red drake with 2 ninjas and 2 shamans
Poly ninja can easily do each run, except for Naaga.

Why are we building warriors with pets to farm stones if ninja can clear the map faster?

Ninja needs to be nerfed even more
 

IDemonI

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Any char farms beta bosses as well as ninja in poly, check resistances
You can solo red drag with any 4 chars (well except sura but we dont count it as a char)
There is not a single dungeon in the game being abused by any ninja atm
 

CaptainAntilles

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Any char farms beta bosses as well as ninja in poly, check resistances
You can solo red drag with any 4 chars (well except sura but we dont count it as a char)
There is not a single dungeon in the game being abused by any ninja atm
I am getting the impression that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about or you have never been part of a red drake run.
 

Proteus

Active member
Beta bosses get farmed way too fast at the moment by ninja farmers.
You can solo red drake with 2 ninjas and 2 shamans
Poly ninja can easily do each run, except for Naaga.

Why are we building warriors with pets to farm stones if ninja can clear the map faster?

Ninja needs to be nerfed even more
Least delulu lv 96 warrior. Ofc a lv 105 ninja clears faster than a lv 96 warrior what are u expecting? The majority of farmers at beta bosses are warriors btw with a lv 105 acc as the main dmg and a lv 96 dropper and the difference is barely noticeable.
 

CaptainAntilles

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Least delulu lv 96 warrior. Ofc a lv 105 ninja clears faster than a lv 96 warrior what are u expecting? The majority of farmers at beta bosses are warriors btw with a lv 105 acc as the main dmg and a lv 96 dropper and the difference is barely noticeable.
My point is : ninja is doing ok on bosses, why does it need to be better than warrior at stones?
Nerf the stones to have 0% arrow resist.
Bosses should stay the same.
 
My point is : ninja is doing ok on bosses, why does it need to be better than warrior at stones?
Nerf the stones to have 0% arrow resist.
Bosses should stay the same.
Let’s be frank: Warrior is superior in almost every aspect of the game, especially in the late game where it clearly stands as the top class. I’m not suggesting we break the balance entirely, but a reasonable buff for Ninja would make sense. Right now, Ninja feels restricted to killing bosses in Poly, and if that option isn’t available, you're forced to farm stones, which isn’t ideal. Meanwhile, Warrior can access runs more freely since it doesn’t rely on Poly as heavily, especially if others are already farming bosses.
 

CaptainAntilles

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Let’s be frank: Warrior is superior in almost every aspect of the game, especially in the late game where it clearly stands as the top class. I’m not suggesting we break the balance entirely, but a reasonable buff for Ninja would make sense. Right now, Ninja feels restricted to killing bosses in Poly, and if that option isn’t available, you're forced to farm stones, which isn’t ideal. Meanwhile, Warrior can access runs more freely since it doesn’t rely on Poly as heavily, especially if others are already farming bosses.
What game have you been playing?

105 ninja farmers deal 20k more to bosses with simillar equipment than a warrior does
 
What game have you been playing?

105 ninja farmers deal 20k more to bosses with simillar equipment than a warrior does
Yikes, did I say that ninja 105 does less than warrior? if you have nothing to say, don't bother ranting here nonsense. Is that how we should measure who is superior or not?
truly regarded, ignored everything and states the most obvious stuff. Let's make warrior best at every aspect of the game and beat to the pulp the other classes.
 

Azarthal

Member
Let’s be frank: Warrior is superior in almost every aspect of the game, especially in the late game where it clearly stands as the top class. I’m not suggesting we break the balance entirely, but a reasonable buff for Ninja would make sense. Right now, Ninja feels restricted to killing bosses in Poly, and if that option isn’t available, you're forced to farm stones, which isn’t ideal. Meanwhile, Warrior can access runs more freely since it doesn’t rely on Poly as heavily, especially if others are already farming bosses.
It can still farm metin stones pretty good but now u gotta invest a little more than 1kkk😅
 

Proteus

Active member
What game have you been playing?

105 ninja farmers deal 20k more to bosses with simillar equipment than a warrior does
9 out of 10 boss farmers in daily/weekly are warriors btw just letting you know. And no, ninja doesnt do 20k more to bosses. Probably you mean 20k more than you. Idk where you get these delusions from.
 

CaptainAntilles

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9 out of 10 boss farmers in daily/weekly are warriors btw just letting you know. And no, ninja doesnt do 20k more to bosses. Probably you mean 20k more than you. Idk where you get these delusions from.
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Are we playing the same server?

#1 Xplood - using 105 ninja, dropping on 96 sura
#2 Dio - using 105 ninja, dropping on 96 ninja
#3 MarioHannah, using 105 warrior, dropping on 96 warrior
#4ElTerror, uses 96 sura, plays 20 hours a day
#5 Xshadow, no idea how he farms, but I pretty sure he uses only 96 warrior
#6 Kasu , uses 105 mage, drops on 96 warrior
#7 Corvvo, uses 105 warrior, drops on 96 warrior
#8Myself, I use my 100 mage and drop on 96 warrior
#9 Maniaque, uses 105 mage, drops on 96 sura
#10 Tiramisuu, 96 warrior, never met while farming

So, for this week, the best farmers are ninjas, and they do deal 20k more damage with good items.

Ninja needs no buff, it does extremely well on beta bosses
 
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Are we playing the same server?

#1 Xplood - using 105 ninja, dropping on 96 sura
#2 Dio - using 105 ninja, dropping on 96 ninja
#3 MarioHannah, using 105 warrior, dropping on 96 warrior
#4ElTerror, uses 96 sura, plays 20 hours a day
#5 Xshadow, no idea how he farms, but I pretty sure he uses only 96 warrior
#6 Kasu , uses 105 mage, drops on 96 warrior
#7 Corvvo, uses 105 warrior, drops on 96 warrior
#8Myself, I use my 100 mage and drop on 96 warrior
#9 Maniaque, uses 105 mage, drops on 96 sura
#10 Tiramisuu, 96 warrior, never met while farming

So, for this week, the best farmers are ninjas, and they do deal 20k more damage with good items.

Ninja needs no buff, it does extremely well on beta bosses
Highly regarded. So you're saying ninjas outperformed warriors in boss kills simply because they have better DPS? Then maybe also include how much time each of those players actually invested, so we can understand the full picture. Right now it looks more like:

kills = dps × gear × time

Without factoring in time spent, you're only looking at the part of the formula that fits your argument.
 
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