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I saw a couple of posts regarding this particular issue , one of which was accepted and one that is currently pending. Frankly I don't think this matter has been fully understood and addressed properly. The market situation is currently absurd for beans, even after the certain patch on January 10th increasing the Green Bean drop from stones level 75-90. I don't think this is gonna cut it and to be honest i wasn't expecting Alchemic scrolls to become harder to obtain after the release of Meley , in my opinion these items need to be somewhat easily obtainable since if you already put a stone worth 10-20-30-50kkk you shouldn't be forced to spend another 10kkk or more to remove that said stone, in some cases multiple stones.
Currently across all markets (Jinno , Shinshoo , Chunjo) there is 1157(Blue Dragon Beans) and 426(Green Dragon Beans) totalling 1583(average price 10kk per bean) which is just 15 Alchemic Scrolls. Compared to the 102 Dissolvers currently in shops.( Im pretty sure the number of Dissolvers players drop and keep is higher then the beans also)
What i'm trying to say is that there is a huge Imbalance between these two things, now don't get me wrong i don't think crafting Alchemic Scrolls should be free but it shouldn't be expensive and impossible to do, the players already paid their part in obtaining the Alchemy whether by buying it or making it, which in some cases costs multiple billions or kkk's as said in game and shouldn't be punished and need to pay an absurd amount of money to change/remove a stone. Now considering the current market situation let's assume the average it takes to remove a CL5 Stone is 4-5 Scrolls(Probably not true and its more) that would be 4-5kkk at the current average market price and that would take out 500 of the 1583 beans on the market. Another 500 for a second stone and the market is already dry and the players who are selling the beans are already raising the prices causing even more imbalance and chaos. Previously i've had situations where i needed 15+ Scrolls to remove a CL5 Stone but lets assume i was really unlucky at that time, now i was planning to try and remove another CL5 Stone but when i started checking the shops i changed my mind and will be stuck like this for a while i'm guessing since 7 Scrolls already failed. If someone else decides to start removing a Stone also the beans from the market will disappear in 5 minutes and we are back to square one. Having 15 Scrolls available on the market is really bad, considering players are spamming Meley daily and adjusting/changing Alchemy.
( Note these are individual suggestions and not to be taken all as one) So my suggestions for a fix here would be one of the following:
- 1.Reduce the number of beans needed to craft an Alchemic Scroll down to x50 beans
- 2.Drastically increase the drop of Blue and Green Dragon beans(all sources)
- 3.Make Green and Blue Dragon beans an available drop starting Level 50 and + up untill 105 (Considering this is the level the Alchemy is unlocked)
- 4.Increase the chances of successfully removing a stone with an Alchemic scroll by a fair amount
The community can share their opinions and their experience dealing with Alchemic Scrolls and share maybe other suggestions that can help the market and hopefully the team can come to an arrangement to see one of these suggestions come trough.
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For the players who already moved away from beta and went into Enchanted Forest - Add Blue and Green Dragon Beans as drop from Metin of Dusk and Metin of Insanity so they can have at least a way of obtaining them ( This was already mentioned in a previous topic but i will just add it here as well just in case)
Currently across all markets (Jinno , Shinshoo , Chunjo) there is 1157(Blue Dragon Beans) and 426(Green Dragon Beans) totalling 1583(average price 10kk per bean) which is just 15 Alchemic Scrolls. Compared to the 102 Dissolvers currently in shops.( Im pretty sure the number of Dissolvers players drop and keep is higher then the beans also)
What i'm trying to say is that there is a huge Imbalance between these two things, now don't get me wrong i don't think crafting Alchemic Scrolls should be free but it shouldn't be expensive and impossible to do, the players already paid their part in obtaining the Alchemy whether by buying it or making it, which in some cases costs multiple billions or kkk's as said in game and shouldn't be punished and need to pay an absurd amount of money to change/remove a stone. Now considering the current market situation let's assume the average it takes to remove a CL5 Stone is 4-5 Scrolls(Probably not true and its more) that would be 4-5kkk at the current average market price and that would take out 500 of the 1583 beans on the market. Another 500 for a second stone and the market is already dry and the players who are selling the beans are already raising the prices causing even more imbalance and chaos. Previously i've had situations where i needed 15+ Scrolls to remove a CL5 Stone but lets assume i was really unlucky at that time, now i was planning to try and remove another CL5 Stone but when i started checking the shops i changed my mind and will be stuck like this for a while i'm guessing since 7 Scrolls already failed. If someone else decides to start removing a Stone also the beans from the market will disappear in 5 minutes and we are back to square one. Having 15 Scrolls available on the market is really bad, considering players are spamming Meley daily and adjusting/changing Alchemy.
( Note these are individual suggestions and not to be taken all as one) So my suggestions for a fix here would be one of the following:
- 1.Reduce the number of beans needed to craft an Alchemic Scroll down to x50 beans
- 2.Drastically increase the drop of Blue and Green Dragon beans(all sources)
- 3.Make Green and Blue Dragon beans an available drop starting Level 50 and + up untill 105 (Considering this is the level the Alchemy is unlocked)
- 4.Increase the chances of successfully removing a stone with an Alchemic scroll by a fair amount
The community can share their opinions and their experience dealing with Alchemic Scrolls and share maybe other suggestions that can help the market and hopefully the team can come to an arrangement to see one of these suggestions come trough.
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For the players who already moved away from beta and went into Enchanted Forest - Add Blue and Green Dragon Beans as drop from Metin of Dusk and Metin of Insanity so they can have at least a way of obtaining them ( This was already mentioned in a previous topic but i will just add it here as well just in case)